the Antenorides and Venetians



the Antenorides and Venetians,

Original French:  les Antenorides & Venetians,

Modern French:  les Antenorides & venetians,


Antenorides and Venetians

The Antenoridae are the people of Padua
The Antenoridae are the people of Padua, founded by Antenor the Trojan.

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Le Venitien

Venitien. Desprez, Recueil de la diversité des habits (1564)
Soyez certains que les Veniciens,
(Qui sont Seigneurs, nobles & anciens,)
Alors qu’ilz vont au Palays, sont vestus
Comme voyez, & sont pleins de vertus.

Desprez, François (1525-1580), Recueil de la diversité des habits. qui sont de present en usage, tant es pays d’Europe, Asie, Affrique, & Isles sauvages, Le tout fait apres le naturel. Paris: Richard Breton, 1564. Bibliothèque nationale de France


Antenor could escape the Achaean host, thread safely the Illyrian gulfs and inmost realms of the Liburnians, and pass the springs of Timavus, whence through nine mouths, with a mountain’s mighty roar, it comes a bursting flood and buries the fields under its sounding sea [The Timavus, which rises in the Julian Alps]. Yet here he set Padua’s town, a home for his Teucrians, gave a name to the race, and hung up the arms of Troy; now, settled in tranquil peace, he is at rest. But we, your offspring, to whom you grant the heights of heaven, have lost our ships—O shame unutterable!—and, to appease one angry foe, are betrayed and kept far from Italian shores. And thus is piety honoured? Is this the way you restore us to empire?”

Virgil (70 – 19 BC), Aeneid. Books 7-12. George Patrick Goold (1922–2001), translator. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 1918. 1.242, p. 279. Loeb Classical Library


Rhodiginus, Caelius (1469-1525), Antiquarum. 1516. 10.


Les Padüans, qui descendent, dit-on, d’Anthenor.

Rabelais, François (1494?–1553), Le Rabelais moderne, ou les Œuvres de Rabelais mises à la portée de la plupart des lecteurs. François-Marie de Marsy (1714-1763), editor. Amsterdam: J.-F. Bernard, 1752. p. 171. Google Books


Padouans, qui prétendoient descendre d’Antenor.

Rabelais, François (1494?–1553), Œuvres de F. Rabelais. Nouvelle edition augmentée de plusieurs extraits des chroniques admirables du puissant roi Gargantua… et accompagnée de notes explicatives…. L. Jacob (pseud. of Paul Lacroix) (1806–1884), editor. Paris: Charpentier, 1840. p. 313.


The Antenoridae are the people of Padua, founded by Antenor the Trojan.

Rabelais, François (1494?–1553), The Five Books and Minor Writings. Volume 1: Books I-III. William Francis Smith (1842–1919), translator. London: Alexader P. Watt, 1893. Internet Archive


Les descendants d’Anténor, fondateur de Padoue. Cf. Virgile, Énéide, I, 242, 247, et le commentaire de Servius sur ces vers. R.E.R., IV, 359.

Rabelais, François (1494?–1553), Oeuvres. Édition critique. Tome Cinquieme: Tiers Livre. Abel Lefranc (1863-1952), editor. Paris: Librairie Ancienne Honoré Champion, 1931. p. 374. Internet Archive


Descendants d’Anténor, fondateur de Padoue. L’anecdote sur Jules César figurait dans la Vie de César de Plutarque et chez le compilateur Coelius Rhodiginus (Antiquae lectiones, x).

Rabelais, François (1494?–1553), Le Tiers Livre. Pierre Michel, editor. Paris: Gallimard, 1966. p. 589.


Habitants de Padoue, descendants d’Anténor, fondateur de la ville.

Rabelais, François (1494?–1553), Œuvres complètes. Mireille Huchon, editor. Paris: Gallimard, 1994. p. 510, n. 11.


In Greek mythology, Antenor was a son of the Dardanian noble Aesyetes by Cleomestra; or, alternately, of Hicetaon. He was a counselor to Priam during the Trojan War. As a counselor, Antenor advised his fellow-townsmen to send Helen back to the Greeks. He proved to be friendly to the Greeks and an advocate of peace. In the later story (according to Dares and Dictys) he was said to have treacherously opened the gates of Troy to the enemy; in return for which, in the general sack of the city, his house, marked by a panther’s skin at the door, was spared by the victors. Afterwards, according to various versions of the legend, he either rebuilt a city on the site of Troy, or settled at Cyrene, or became the founder of Patavium (currently Padua), or of Korčula.



Posted 10 February 2013. Modified 13 June 2020.

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